# How many Planck's in a point?

#### Instantonly

Topsquark said:
Photons are the quanta of the electromagnetic field. They are point particles so far as we know.
Every particle has spin. A photon's leading edge, UP, is separated from it's trailing edge, DOWN, by it's total vacuum exposure(mean distance from emission/from rest).

Should one measure a photon emitted by a star as it travels through the vacuum at any point before it is refracted by an atom, one must account for the fact that it is gravity that guides that photon to it's initial atomic refraction. Intervening that photon still travels via reflection, through the vacuum.

The initial atomic refraction of a photon, measured against it's initial emission amplitude, defines how much further that energy must travel before it comes to rest.

If one can measure the amplitude of the photon at emission and the baryon mass that emission has gravitated toward one can define the photon's vacuum delay.
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**>>Let initial emission baryon mass refraction(distance to mass rest) divided by emission point amplitude divided by the square of the vacuum intervening emission and rest = vacuum delay = c<<**

The previous equation is an attempt to measure the path of a standard photon to rest through baryon refraction. Without further significant consideration I cannot show that equation in this manner. I can provide the reason for this which is that the exercise requires evaluation of the path of a standard photon emission to final rest-in a purely gravitational field.

The only simple method I have to describe this is the path of a photon that does not encounter baryonic refraction. As I have alluded to previously, it is my consideration that the trailing edge of a photon does not truly leave the point of emission until it's final path to rest is resolved by baryonic refraction. Should a photon never encounter a baryon, it WILL collapse to the particle/s defined by it's original emission wavelength/amplitude, once it reaches it's wavelength dissolution limit.

Within this context the photon's vacuum delay can be measured between it's amplitude/wavelength and the distance intervening emission and collapse.

A photon develops 2 dimensional vacuum compression into 3 dimensional vacuum suspension, for all intents and purposes.
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HAWKING-SUSSKIND-KNOX Vacuum Confinement Principal

Let up = distance from emission/Alpha

Let down = distance to final rest - mass absorption/Omega

Let c = Vacuum interruption

Allow that the amplitudes measured in the standard photon electro-magnetic spectrum mediate vacuum delay.

Allow that the spectrum as analysed by Hawking-Susskind polarisation mediate vacuum advance.
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Where a standard photon describes a relatively straight line between it's emission and initial baryon refraction and any straight-line divergence can be measured as an EM photon's vacuum delay, an out-falling Hawking photon describes a path tangential to the relative straight line and measured in divergence by it's wavelength and amplitude before it intersects 3 dimensional vacuum and it's 'spin initiating' reflection, the tangential divergence of which can be measured as the vacuum advance of an out-falling Hawking photon.

To exhaustively define what is going on there is a somewhat more complex equation but that is as concise as can confine immediately.

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#### topsquark

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Topsquark said:
Photons are the quanta of the electromagnetic field. They are point particles so far as we know.
Every particle has spin. A photon's leading edge, UP, is separated from it's trailing edge, DOWN, by it's total vacuum exposure(mean distance from emission/from rest).

Should one measure a photon emitted by a star as it travels through the vacuum at any point before it is refracted by an atom, one must account for the fact that it is gravity that guides that photon to it's initial atomic refraction. Intervening that photon still travels via reflection, through the vacuum.

The initial atomic refraction of a photon, measured against it's initial emission amplitude, defines how much further that energy must travel before it comes to rest.

If one can measure the amplitude of the photon at emission and the baryon mass that emission has gravitated toward one can define the photon's vacuum delay.

Let initial emission baryon mass refraction(distance to mass rest) divided by emission point amplitude divided by the square of the vacuum intervening emission and rest = vacuum delay = c

Let up = distance from emission

Let down = distance to final rest - mass absorption

Where a standard photon describes a relatively straight line between it's emission and initial baryon refraction, an out-falling Hawking photon describes a path tangential to the relative straight line and measured in divergence by it's wavelength and amplitude before it intersects 3 dimensional vacuum and it's 'spin initiating' reflection.

I request at least a single opportunity to review that to check I got it straight, please.

To exhaustively define what is going on there is a somewhat more complex equation but that is as concise as can confine immediately.
Again there are many points here where you are wrong. But I'll wait for your next post to talk to you about it. Take whatever time you need.

-Dan

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#### Instantonly

Again there are many points here where you are wrong. But I'll wait for your next post to talk to you about it. Take whatever time you need.

-Dan
I apologise if my presentation is obscured by simplification. This is largely out of concern for misdirecting the topic focus toward results of indirect relevance.

If you would allow me till Sunday evening/Monday morning to review the OP submission I would appreciate it.

What might provide some immediate clarification is the description of an instanton, as 'a map from 3d Euclidean space to 3d Euclidean space', a friend supplied to another forum.

The tangential divergence I have referred to is the simplest I can illustrate this transition(instanton moment) and it is vacuum delay/advance that an instanton measurement defines.

Gravity = maximal tension the vacuum can place on the path of a photon.

Quanta identified = uncertainty resolved.

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#### Instantonly

A note while I am reviewing the OP. The double-slit explanation I supplied to the uncertainty thread was minimalist. What is established when the leading edge of the photon reaches the hole is grounding. This is required to establish the path of refraction(shortest path to rest).

The fields of the particles surrounding a single hole will trap the leading edge long enough for it's trailing edge to swap places with it and thus continue the straight line path.

If a second hole is present, the first hole's grounding with the leading edge of the photon will create an oscillation disparity at the second hole which allows the information contained between the leading and trailing edge of the photon to be expressed from that position also.

I have largely noted this to consider whether the limit to which one can separate a double-slit experiment's holes to provide a given frequency a result is itself a measure of the photon's vacuum delay.

For instance, the M-drive strikes me as the type of double slit experiment remodel I am trying to envisage. Far as I can tell it works through vacuum delay. The principal is minimally different to the hypothesis of Unruh radiation and 'quantized inertia', as referred to in the linked article below. I am certain it is easier to describe as 'vacuum delay' and that Unruh radiation is a relatavistic explanation for vacuum delay/advance. Vacuum delay/advance IS quantized inertia.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a22678/em-drive-cannae-cubesat-reactionless/

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#### Instantonly

Ok topsquark. I've exhausted what I can achieve through submitting my thoughts to a forum. I've identified the axial factors and all that is left is to tidy up the presentation and define the measurable quanta. Anyone here interested in participating in that exercise please inbox me.

I hope you don't take it as a personal slight that I have forwarded these observations directly to Professor Susskind for his review.

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#### Instantonly

Vacuum confinement for a photon of given Hz.

hz/c = vacuum disruption
travel(emission to measurement) divided by vacuum disruption = vacuum delay
(environment gravity value)mass divided by vacuum delay = vacuum advance

vacuum disruption = E
vacuum delay = fractal dispersion(entanglement with local EM field)
vacuum advance = purely gravitational path

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#### topsquark

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HAWKING-SUSSKIND-KNOX Vacuum Stasis Principal

Let up = distance from emission/Alpha

Let down = distance to final rest - mass absorption/Omega

Let c = Vacuum interruption

Allow that the amplitudes measured in the standard photon electro-magnetic spectrum mediate vacuum delay.

Allow that the spectrum as analysed by Hawking-Susskind polarisation mediate vacuum advance.
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This raises far more questions than it answers. What are alpha and omega supposed to mean? What is a vacuum interruption? And I do not understand either of the "allow" statements.

-Dan

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#### Instantonly

This raises far more questions than it answers. What are alpha and omega supposed to mean? What is a vacuum interruption? And I do not understand either of the "allow" statements.

-Dan
alpha = photon emission origin (point)

omega = emission rest vector

vacuum interruption(c) = vacuum delay value of photon amplitude

vacuum dispersion(C) = vacuum advance value of photon polarisation termination

"allow" that the grounding of the energy of an electromagnetic spectra photon is determined by it's Hawking-Susskind polarisation termination point, defined between c and the dominant local event horizon as Hawking polarised photon emission, or c/Hawking-Susskind termination=rest.

Where a photon's amplitude as it travels through vacuum expresses it's vacuum displacement, it's polarisation expresses it's distance to rest. This might be represented for a photon travelling between our Sun and the Earth's atmosphere as the tangent between it's emission point, the EH of the Milky Way's CBH and the first baryon the photon strikes encountering the atmosphere, with the points between EH and refraction set at 90 degrees.

Where the 90 degree tangential describes the photon's vacuum delay(charge separation), the points intersecting alpha and EH describe total vacuum advance and rest termination.

To provide this a modicum of context I would state that a photon that passes through space occupied by baryonic matter without registering on that matter's fields, has not technically intersected the space that matter occupies.

Within the visible spectra gravitation is mediated by vacuum delay. Beyond the visible spectra gravitation is mediated by vacuum advance. This implies that for particles more substantial than photons that may exist beyond the visible spectra, centre and angular momenta quanta are mirrored.

ie; should a baryon type particle occur that fully reflects X-Ray or Gamma photons rather than refracting them, it's mass/volume would provide matching observable effect to the measurements differentiated as DM.

ie; the concomitant result of a spent photon is vacuum expansion identified as DE.
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I believe I would prefer to confine further discussion of this topic to closed review. Thank you for your aid in defining that which required further quantification topsquark.

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#### topsquark

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Again, only some of the points. I am doing this on the open Forum so others can follow the discussion. I do not generally discuss questions over the PM system.

"allow" that the grounding of the energy of an electromagnetic spectra photon is determined by it's Hawking-Susskind polarisation termination point, defined between c and the dominant local event horizon as Hawking polarised photon emission, or c/Hawking-Susskind termination=rest.
So this is specifically near a black hole?

Where a photon's amplitude as it travels through vacuum expresses it's vacuum displacement, it's polarisation expresses it's distance to rest. This might be represented for a photon travelling between our Sun and the Earth's atmosphere as the tangent between it's emission point, the EH of the Milky Way's CBH and the first baryon the photon strikes encountering the atmosphere, with the points between EH and refraction set at 90 degrees.
Only a high energy photon will be scattered or absorbed by a nucleon. They typically scatter off the electron cloud.

Where the 90 degree tangential describes the photon's vacuum delay(charge separation), the points intersecting alpha and EH describe total vacuum advance and rest termination.
Possibly some bad terminology here. Photons never come to rest. By termination do you mean absorbed?

Within the visible spectra gravitation is mediated by vacuum delay. Beyond the visible spectra gravitation is mediated by vacuum advance. This implies that for particles more substantial than photons that may exist beyond the visible spectra, centre and angular momenta quanta are mirrored.
There is no "visible" spectrum for gravitons. You can define different wavelengths for gravitons but you'll never actually see them.

ie; the concomitant result of a spent photon is vacuum expansion identified as DE.
How does absorption have anything to do with vacuum expansion. This is kind of coming out of nowhere.

-Dan

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#### Instantonly

Ok Dan. You are proving a very competent guide and supplying appropriate questions. I will address these today. I suppose the subject is contrasting my mild discomfort with public speaking against my extreme discomfort with causing harm to the community. That sounds awfully neurotic so it is probably best if I continue to clarify where you request.