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Old Sep 24th 2013, 08:59 AM   #21
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My intuition says that there should be no distinction between space and "empty" space... I think that to make such a distinction short cuts the evidence in order to preserve the concept of a "Big Bang".

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_priz...sprize2011.pdf page 1

Why should the universe take on this shape instead of a simple cone?
The difference is that space is considered on a Classical level. In practice QM says there is no such thing...the smaller the scale you are looking at the more virtual particle interactions you are going to see. And this has nothing at all to do with the Big Bang.

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You have a mind that is certainly quite capable of considering things beyond the classical! I hope that my posts have managed to drag you away from what you have learned in the past, just enough to escape the bonds of convention.
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You have a mind that is certainly quite capable of considering things beyond the classical! I hope that my posts have managed to drag you away from what you have learned in the past, just enough to escape the bonds of convention.
Ummmm...yeah. I have a MS in Quantum Field Theory. Thinking beyond the "classical" comes with the territory. I do believe three impossible things before breakfast, but there are conditions on that...we still have to use the rules of QM still and there are constraints that need to be considered.

And if I'm going someone is going to "drag (me) away from what (I) have learned in the past..." I'm going down fighting. I've learned a lot in my schooling and a lot beyond that and I use that knowledge accordingly. I may speculate on ideas that diverge from common ken but I always do so with the frame of mind that the last 400 years of Scientific development can't just be thrown away.

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Ummmm...yeah. I have a MS in Quantum Field Theory. Thinking beyond the "classical" comes with the territory. I do believe three impossible things before breakfast, but there are conditions on that...we still have to use the rules of QM still and there are constraints that need to be considered.

And if I'm going someone is going to "drag (me) away from what (I) have learned in the past..." I'm going down fighting. I've learned a lot in my schooling and a lot beyond that and I use that knowledge accordingly. I may speculate on ideas that diverge from common ken but I always do so with the frame of mind that the last 400 years of Scientific development can't just be thrown away.

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Euclid was not thrown away, but he was certainly pigeonholed!
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