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 Jun 10th 2013, 10:10 PM #1 Banned   Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 64 Thought experiment "small box and only one body inside the universe " Fact 1 - wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminosity Fact 2 Doppler's efect ( study moving source ) http://www2.astro.psu.edu/users/cpal...es/FG02_22.JPG VERY IMPORTANT ANIMATION !!!! Fact 3 Astronomy Aberration animation > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A...imebeaming.gif ************************************************** ******* Thought experiment "small box and only one body inside the universe " Bulb ---------------------150 000 000 km -------------camera -----> Vo >0 Bulb ---------------------150 000 000 km -------------camera Vo = 0 Bulb ---------------------150 000 000 km -------------camera <---- Vo<0 Please turn on and off bulb (ONLY 1 sec signal long ) Light's signal has got 360 degree angle http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yrD2uFLkzn.../s1600/222.JPG ************************************************** ******* bulb ----[DARK FILTRE] ---- camera dark dark filtre = 150 000 000 km distance inside small box ************************************************** ***** Einstein and small box ? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zD3SHCNAlk...I/s1600/e1.JPG http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vTs64GjGxJ...600/DopekN.JPG Where is the source ? Where will be the camera ? Where the signal started ? Where will be ring 1 during picture ? Exist Vo ? Is Vo constant or we slowing down ? ( Global Warm Efect is real ? ) PERPENDICULAR - small box http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YT45QUAt1l.../s1600/222.JPG http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2xhYG4lbDO...endiculard.JPG below paragraph is right now in all books please study " Galileo postulated his relativity hypothesis: any two observers moving at constant speed and direction with respect to one another will obtain the same results for all mechanical experiments (it is understood that the apparatuses they use for these experiments move with them). This idea has a very important consequence: velocity is not absolute. This means that velocity can only be measured in reference to some object(s), and that the result of this measurment changes if we decide to measure the velocity with respect to a diferent refernce point(s). Imagine an observer traveling inside a windowless spaceship moving away from the sun at constant velocity. Galileo asserted that there are no mechanical experiments that can be made inside the rocket that will tell the occupants that the rocket is moving . The question are we moving'' has no meaning unless we specify a reference frame (are we moving with respect to that star'' is meaningful). This fact, formulated in the 1600's remains very true today and is one of the cornerstones of Einstein's theories of relativity." MAROSZ ( me ) " (it is understood that the apparatuses they use for these experiments move with them)." ?! "This idea has a very important consequence: velocity is not absolute. This means that velocity can only be measured in reference to some object(s)" ?! We can recognize velocity and we no need use other objects ( Stars ) we can use fact confirmed by Michelson Morley light's velocity = only C not exist C+ V source Ring 1 ...Ring 2 ... Ring 3 ..... and luminousity = "apparatuses " that is not not moving with Us ?!?! "We have only one Universe Relativity = nonsense" Marosz 11 /06 / 2013 5:00 AM polish local time http://solarsytemspeed.blogspot.com/
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In all the multitude of things you have posted this is the only part hat makes sense and is correct:

 Originally Posted by tesla2 The question "are we moving'' has no meaning unless we specify a reference frame (are we moving with respect to that star'' is meaningful). This fact, formulated in the 1600's remains very true today and is one of the cornerstones of Einstein's theories of relativity."
You copied that from a book and yet you don't believe it. You're multiple postings have done nothing to persuade anybody that velocity can be measured against some absolute reference frame. I suggest that you stop posting the same thing over and over again, because it's not working.

 Jun 11th 2013, 07:52 AM #3 Forum Admin     Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: On the dance floor, baby! Posts: 2,163 Last warning There is no aether. It has never been measured by any technique in over a century. This is not quite proof but it is fairly convincing. Consider that Mawell's equations for EM rely on the non-existence of an aether. (As well as the demand that the speed of light is a constant in any reference frame.) Quantum Field Theory would be incorrect if there was an aether and QFT contains some of the most verified concepts in all of Physics. Please look at the Maxwell equations with an eye on understanding why and how the Lorentz transformations are necessary for the theory. Perhaps it is a violation of freedom of speech, but I am not going to allow you to continue to post on this topic until you can convince me, not of your theories, but that you have learned enough of the material that your proposals negate. Even Einstein knew and understood QM the whole time that he was using thought experiments to try to disprove it. -Dan __________________ Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. See the forum rules here.

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