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Old Jul 29th 2009, 10:33 PM   #1
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Omnipotent God?

If God can do everything, can He make a stone which He cannot lift?
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Old Jul 30th 2009, 05:54 AM   #2
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If God can do everything, can He make a stone which He cannot lift?
I understand an omnipotent being to be a being which can do all things possible. Since it's not possible to create a stone that even he can't lift then the answer is no.
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Old Jul 30th 2009, 09:57 AM   #3
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If God can do everything, can He make a stone which He cannot lift?
There's a contradiction in the sentence. Look at "God can do everything" and "He cannot lift".
If God can do everything, he cannot create a stone he can't lift. Oh oh, that sounds to me something similar to the liar that say "I'm lying". I guess there's no answer.
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I understand an omnipotent being to be a being which can do all things possible. Since it's not possible to create a stone that even he can't lift then the answer is no.
Pmb, do you think logical absolutes are extended beyond the limits of
our universe? Assuming "Universe" is not defined as everything that exists.
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Yes. The question ( on omnipotency of God )contradicts itself and hence cannot be answered.
This reminds me of a similar question asked often in physics vivas.
What happens if an irresistible force meets an immovable object?

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Yes. The question contradicts itself and hence cannot be answered.
You give an answer and then say it can't be answered?

Also, I don't believe the question I posed was unanswerable. Let me re-phrase;

Are logical absolutes properties of physical laws within a universe?
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Pmb, do you think logical absolutes are extended beyond the limits of our universe?
What is a logical absolute?
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Yes. The question contradicts itself and hence cannot be answered.
I disagree. In my opinion it boils down to interpretation, i.e. what constitutes "everything"? I take it to mean "all that exists" or "all that logically exists". You then ask about something which cannot logically exist. The answer is then no. But that's just me.
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I do believe that things like something is either true or false
can apply to a system that doesn't follow our laws of physics
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