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Old Aug 24th 2019, 03:43 PM   #51
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The 4D space γ element was showed in the attached picture ahead. I attached here again. There is a square mark on the head of the X4 element. The letter representing 4D space speed “V” is capitalized. The 4D space γ element is not a definition. It’s the result of calculation.
What funny is that your solution in situation of X4 = ∞ is correct: γ = 1 (detailed calculation in 4D space method see rabbit htam9876’s thread “the mass of photon, a topic of both old and new”).
Then L = L0 or represented as L’ = L. Also, △t’ = △t.
Then L’/△t’ = L / △t. Namely c’ = c. It means light speed is a constant in different inertial frames.
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"...But taking the example of photon mass, if someone says that photons have a mass, then you simply are not talking about a photon, which is defined from the Maxwell equations..." ???Why should Maxwell equations take mass into consideration? What a joke. Taking the example of doing exercises about movement in school, sometimes we just regard an object as a mass point because no need to consider it's specific structure.
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If something go wrong, it's this semi-tramp's responsibility to haul *ss. It's not an easy job for this semi-tramp with only poor knowledge base to do. That's why he is so careful and bounces everywhere to seek universalism inter-discipline/in mulit fields. haha...
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Old Sep 1st 2019, 04:43 PM   #52
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Wink Concept of four dimension spacial current

Rabbit htam9876@neila9876:
You are talking X4 Matter Cycle Model of Cosmos...But I am talking electron...
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Oh, come back to your topic, then...I think that you will have no grass to eat, very soon.haha...

Now, it’s time to induce the concept of four dimension spacial current.
(Three dimension spacial current) j = q v
So, X4 j = X4 v q and X4 v = V, then:
X4 j = q V = J (four dimension spacial current)
The three dimension spacial current here is not that traditional current. The three dimension spacial current is a bilateral concept (charge moves relative to charge).
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Case 4: J = q V = 0 It means no magnetism generated.
dJ/dt ≡ 0
It means no electromagnetic radiation generated.
Case 1: In the unilateral traditional current concept, it’s considered that current is changing direction and is not a stable one. While in X4 bilateral current concept, the three dimension spacial current j between the proton and electron is a stable one.
And X4 value on the circle is a constant (analogy: when an object moves around the earth in circular orbit, the 3D space curvature it experiencing does not change). Just take it as assumption by this semi-tramp. So
J = X4 j = c (c is a constant)
It means stable magnetism generated.
dJ/dt = 0
It means no electromagnetic radiation generated.
More interesting is if view from the proton J = +X4 j = c (here c is a constant, not light speed), while view from the electron J = -X4 j = - c
That means there are two opposite direction 4D space currents existing and generate two opposite direction magnetic moments.
This post can serve as the supplement to the brief analysis of SG experiment in the thread “wavicle, an old topic”.
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Old Sep 4th 2019, 02:07 PM   #53
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Wink 4D space current concept (2)

The above description of 4D space current in case 1 is from the angle of interaction. That method seems to be not so understandable.
Below I use a direct method to describe it (case 1).
The X4 state of the proton can be considered as +1 while the X4 state of the electron can be considered as -1.
So, the 4D space current J = -1j = -j = - c (here c is a constant, not light speed)
It means stable magnetism generated.
dJ/dt = 0
It means no electromagnetic radiation generated.
More interesting is if view from the proton, it’s the electron moving. So, the 4D space current J = -1 j = -j = -c (here c is a constant, not light speed), while view from the electron it’s the proton moving. So, the 4D space current J = +1 j = j = c
That means there are two opposite direction 4D space currents existing and generate two opposite direction magnetic moments.
The same result.
This method is a bit more explicit and understandable although it seems to lose the feeling of interaction.
Which method is more appropriate?
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