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Apr 19th 2018, 11:57 PM   #1
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Anti matter: a topic of both old and new

In my first thread To Discuss the Gap Between Mathematics and Physics,I introduced the concept of X4 and interpreted the meaning of it. And we should recognized that the first step should be trying to find out what are the states of cosmos represented by the different X4 values. In this thread, we go ahead to discuss the meaning of X4= -1. The article in the attachment could be seen as the tricky begining of the discussion of anti matter and is limited to discuss that typt of anti matter against the matter wrold we are familiar with.

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 Apr 20th 2018, 12:34 AM #2 Forum Admin     Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: On the dance floor, baby! Posts: 2,466 Among other things how can $\displaystyle \frac{m_0}{\sqrt{1 - \frac{v^2}{0^2 c^2}}}$ be a complex number? It's not a number at all! So x4 = 0 makes no sense at all! It doesn't help that you still aren't making an sense as far as an explanation is concerned. Your x4 business is vague and has no predictive power at all. For example in all of your equations you are using some basic relativity equations with a simple rescaling ( $\displaystyle v \to v/x4$ ) and claiming it means something that links Relativity and Quantum Mechanics. There is no connection in this context. -Dan osalselaka and benit13 like this. __________________ Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. See the forum rules here.
 Apr 20th 2018, 09:05 AM #3 Banned   Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Xinhui Guangdong Province China Posts: 118 X4 theory is the extension of Relative and even Quantum Thanks for your reply, topsquark. X4 theory is predictive hard to understand. I have talk about the relation between Relative,Quantum and X4 in the article The Nature of the Fourth Dimension (the attachment pdf file) in the first thread, and will advance to Quantum again step by step in this thread. X= X1/X4,V = V1/X4 ,the mass speed equation, etc, are just the basic transformation equations in X4 theory,so they appear repeatedly in all the articles throught out X4 theory. On the contrary,those equations of the Lorentz transformation do not appear because we talk about not space-time in different frames in the same world. A real number R/0 = ∞ in Higher Geo in China , 1 - ∞ could be deem as a very big negative , the root is a complex number and meaningful in math . The complex number mass is meaningless indeed,so the supposed ''joint'' particle could not exist in fact. Even we deem the solution be zero or the calculation meaningless... and we have to refer to the title of the first thread ,the meaning of physics is very clear,it could not exist . The articles in the front might be some beginning theory of X4 while its power in the rear. Last edited by htam9876; Apr 20th 2018 at 10:58 AM. Reason: supplement
 Apr 21st 2018, 03:31 AM #4 Banned   Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Xinhui Guangdong Province China Posts: 118 How did Relativity and Quantum do when vagueness occur The superposition priciple of Quantum is vagueness even for a smart guy.The normalization of the plane wave function of the free particle is vague,even mission of impossible... The static mass and moving mass of photon in Relativity is vague too, what can people do? Go ahead and see what problem could they solve. X4 theory is striking to narrow the gap between math and physics,narrow the gap between Relativity and Quantum, narrow the gap inside themselves... Why people couldn't massively produce and apply anti matter yet? I feel that many gaps between math and physics should be overcomed before that goal could be reach.
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 The superposition priciple of Quantum is vagueness even for a smart guy.
Nothing difficult about it. It says you can add certain things up.

 The normalization of the plane wave function of the free particle is vague,even mission of impossible...
Plane wave function. Why plane?

If you are talking QM then the wave function is one of the few cases we can solve analytically.

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 Originally Posted by htam9876 The superposition priciple of Quantum is vagueness even for a smart guy.The normalization of the plane wave function of the free particle is vague,even mission of impossible... The static mass and moving mass of photon in Relativity is vague too, what can people do? Go ahead and see what problem could they solve. X4 theory is striking to narrow the gap between math and physics,narrow the gap between Relativity and Quantum, narrow the gap inside themselves... Why people couldn't massively produce and apply anti matter yet? I feel that many gaps between math and physics should be overcomed before that goal could be reach.
I have studied your posted articles. Please tell me how Quantum Mechanics cam be included in your statements, which are pretty much strictly statements in Special Relativity. I can't see how you are making the connection.

There is nothing vague about the superposition principle, there is nothing vague about normalization, and photons have no mass. (A photon can have an "effective mass" in certain situations but that is just a convenient trick to make the equations nice. Photons never have an actual mass.) So I really don't have any idea what you are talking about in this post.

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 Apr 22nd 2018, 05:44 PM #7 Banned   Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Xinhui Guangdong Province China Posts: 118 simple and difficult It's simple to just add things up without indepth thought or for genius. The first statement of the relation between Relativity,QM and X4 theory is in the attachment pdf file of the first thread
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The article in the attachment is to make supplement to the theory of anti matter, to make the concept of anti matter more clear and to make the movement of anti matter could be calculate just like the ordinary matter, and is also limited to discuss the anti matter against our familiar matter world at this stage of discussion.
We are researching space and time in different worlds. And we should notice that the biggest problem is that we always make use of the uniform dt to calculate speed up to this date. We regard time t as only one thing. But according to the state time equation t =( 1/X4)expC1+C2 , time t has relation with the state which matter is in. It seems that we should use various differential form of t ,dt,dt’…,when calculating speed in different state (world). Could we use the uniform dt to calculate speed in different state (world)? And could the homogenous speed VH represent the speed in its own world(frame)? The answer is yes. I will interpret why the differential form of time，dt ,remains the same in any world after the detailed theory of time come out.
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 Originally Posted by htam9876 The article in the attachment is to make supplement to the theory of anti matter, to make the concept of anti matter more clear and to make the movement of anti matter could be calculate just like the ordinary matter, and is also limited to discuss the anti matter against our familiar matter world at this stage of discussion. We are researching space and time in different worlds. And we should notice that the biggest problem is that we always make use of the uniform dt to calculate speed up to this date. We regard time t as only one thing. But according to the state time equation t =( 1/X4)expC1+C2 , time t has relation with the state which matter is in. It seems that we should use various differential form of t ,dt,dt’…,when calculating speed in different state (world). Could we use the uniform dt to calculate speed in different state (world)? And could the homogenous speed VH represent the speed in its own world(frame)? The answer is yes. I will interpret why the differential form of time，dt ,remains the same in any world after the detailed theory of time come out.
You see, this is my problem. All you are exhibiting is an equation similar to $\displaystyle E = \gamma mc^2$ and suddenly you are making some mysterious connection to either anti-matter or Quantum Mechanics. Your leaps of logic don't have any meat to them. Again, how is your method predictive about topics other than $\displaystyle E = \gamma mc^2$?

You need to include details if you want your work to be recognized. Right now you are showing nothing.

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 Apr 25th 2018, 05:59 PM #10 Banned   Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Xinhui Guangdong Province China Posts: 118 some thing more meaningful Maybe we should not discuss theory here step by step. It's so vapid. Maybe guys who are interested in anti matter should go to the finacial market directly,and I try to use X4 to produce anti matter for him.

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