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Old Jul 17th 2017, 07:22 AM   #1
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The so-called moon-hoax

I'm creating a web page in my website under the common misconceptions section. To see current entries go to

Common Misconceptions

So far I've only created entries by certain physics authorities. I won't be able to find such an authority who'd want to create such an entry so I'm going to do it myself. I am in contact with a former NASA astronaut who will help me when he has the time.

What I'd like to ask is what reasons you've come across that people have for thinking that we never went to the moon?

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Old Jul 18th 2017, 03:15 AM   #2
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I guess that the base reasoning behind the conspiracy theory must be that
"It is (or was) not possible to achieve the moon landings (with 1960s technology)"

or even simply:
"It is not possible to achieve moon landings"

The rest is just trying to find evidence to justify this initial (dis)belief.
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Old Jul 18th 2017, 05:19 AM   #3
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The evidence Apollo did not put a man on the moon is quite overwhelming ....

Back in the 60's there was a cold war on... rocket technology was tied to defence ....if America was seen to fail publicly in putting a man on the moon , the soviets could have thought their ICBM's also weren't reliable ... America could not risk that, so the astronauts stayed in earth orbit for a week then splashdown ...

All the film was shot on stanley kubrick's 2001 film set in England , which high ranking NASA officials admittedly visited at the time.

There are many good youtube videos covering all the evidence.
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Old Jul 18th 2017, 05:35 AM   #4
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Oz's point of view seems to be that if something could have been faked, then it was faked. Never mind the fact that it would require tens of thousands of people to be in on the conspiracy, and yet there has not been a single whistle-blower over the past 48 years. You see the same mentality in conjectures about other events that some folks like to pronounce as faked, such as the 9/11 attacks in NYC, the mass murder of the school kids in Newtown CT, and even the Holocaust. Using the logic these guys employ you could argue that any historical event you may wish to name never occurred.
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Old Jul 18th 2017, 06:03 AM   #5
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I apologize if I gave you the impression that I wanted to either discuss or debate whether the moon-landings were a hoax. To do so would be to take this thread off topic and that would stop people from the real subject, posting what those people hold as evidence.

In your post oz all you did was to make the assertion The evidence Apollo did not put a man on the moon is quite overwhelming which in this thread is a useless statement. Not to mention that its quite wrong.

I ask you to please don't do that again. Please stick to the subject, i.e. what is this so-called "evidence" that it didn't happen.

The event which appears to have triggered the conspiracy theory was the publication of the book We Never Went to the Moon: America's Thirty Billion Dollar Swindle, which was self published in 1976 by Bill Kaysing.

The author had no knowledge of rockets, or technical writing. He wasn't a scientist of any kind. In fact all he had was a BA in English. I started read it but it was the worst piece of rubbish that I've ever read. All the author did was to make unjustified claims and pose questions. That's the same exact kind of nonsense argument that Von Daniken used in his book an ancient astronauts.

Perhaps this is all I really ever needed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_l...iracy_theories

Oz - In that page you will find explanations why all the so-called "overwhelming evidence" you mentioned is due to the ignorance of the people making claims on subjects that they don't fully understand.

If NASA actually faked it then it'd be nearly impossible to find any flaws with what they did. Those people are very very intelligent.

What I'm looking for in this thread is how various people come to believe in the moon-hoax. Merely stating The evidence Apollo did not put a man on the moon is quite overwhelming is useless to me. E.g. Oz - What was the very first thing that came into your life to suggest this was true? E.g. were you in a discussion forum and all of a sudden someone posted a photo and claimed it had to be fake and you looked at it and accepted the claim? If so did you then search the internet and find more claims of this nature? Or did you watch the Apollo program and believed that it had to be fake because rocket engines can't work in a vacuum because "there's no air to push on" etc? I saw someone make that claim - They obviously had no idea what conservation of momentum means or had any grasp of Newton's laws and how to apply them.

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Old Jul 18th 2017, 05:12 PM   #6
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What I'm looking for in this thread is how various people come to believe in the moon-hoax..... Oz - What was the very first thing that came into your life to suggest this was true? ...
I think it was about in 2002 I saw a video .... I was dumbstruck !!! I'm very good at anaylsing things ... always looking for alternate explanations , but the evidence was so clear I couldn't deny it ...I must have watched that video about 6 times , trying to disprove it ...but I couldn't...

Then more videos ... I think this was about the time youtube was starting up .. there must be literally about 100 videos made about this subject ...

Looking on youtube now I've just picked this video at random .. over three hours long ... .... watching the first part it seems excellent , and would recommend anyone with an open mind watch it...

I could list all the main evidence here in this post , but it wouldn't convince anyone .. it will take many hours of looking into to this yourself , with an unbiased , open mind , to make an informed decision.

And yes 9/11 is also a lie... for those wishing to investigate that I would recommend searching "Dr Judy Wood"

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Old Jul 18th 2017, 05:34 PM   #7
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That URL doesn't work for me. It appears as though the forum software alters it to the extent that its unusable.

I watch a small portion of it. The claims made are easily debunked by those who know the science.

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Would be interested in knowing the explanation of the flag "blowing in the wind" at 5:45 of above video

In 22:45 they argue the shadows are not parallel and not caused by the sun

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Old Jul 18th 2017, 10:59 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by kiwiheretic View Post
Would be interested in knowing the explanation of the flag "blowing in the wind" at 5:45 of above video
That is easily answered. Go to

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_l...iracy_theories

and scroll down to that section. The people from Myth busters reproduced what a flag would do in a vacuum chamber and the result debunked the relevant hoax claim. I.e. the flag almost looked like it was being blown by a wind even though it was in a vacuum. The reason is simple: Every day experience with things like flags tell us what to expect when we see them. That's why what people say made them think there was a wind blowing

Fact - When a flag is unfolded/left drop in an atmosphere all of the kinetic energy in the flag is dissipated by the atmosphere and thus stops moving fairly quickly but flaps in a breeze. When there is no atmosphere and only a vacuum there is nothing to dissipate that energy so it flings about like you would expect a pendulum to do when you let if fall. You can even watch the video of it from the Myth Busters show.

Moon-Hoax claim now debunked. Next.
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