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 Oct 23rd 2017, 04:32 PM #1 Junior Member   Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 1 Newtonian Mechanics : Block a wedge with no friction. How to solve for accelerations? A wedge with mass M rests on a frictionless horizontal table top. A block with mass m is placed on the wedge . The base of the wedge is at an angle of A degrees to the horizontal. There is no friction between the block and the wedge. The system is released from rest. Determine: 1) The horizontal acceleration of the wedge 2) The horizontal acceleration of the block 3) The vertical acceleration of the block I don't know how to solve any of these.. I've applied Newton's laws, but I get only 3 equations. I'm guessing there's some additional constraint which gives me the fourth one, but I haven't been able to find it. Should I try Newton's laws in laboratory coordinates? This is what I know so far : 1) The wedge accelerates horizontally to the left ( by the normal b/w wedge,block) 2) The block accelerates horizontally to the right ( by the normal b/w wedge,block) 3) The block accelerates downwards vertically ( I don't know how to reason this one.. perhaps because if it didn't accelerate downward vertically, then it would lose contact with the wedge, but I'm not sure) 4) The centre of mass of the system remains stationary horizontally as all the horizontal forces are internal, so they're cancelled out by Newton's 3rd law. 5) If the block accelerates vertically, and the wedge stays on the same vertical level, then the centre of mass of the system accelerates vertically. Please help.
 Oct 25th 2017, 09:59 AM #2 Senior Member     Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: England Posts: 691 To get things to move you need to supply energy As you indicate (in point 5 in your original post) the centre of mass of the system moves downwards. This supplies the energy for the lateral movements. Note that the wedge cannot move downwards (it rests on the table) so the only way to get the centre of mass of the system to go down, is if the centre of mass of the Block goes down. You are correct that, while the centre of mass of the block and the centre of mass of the wedge both move (in opposite directions) the horizontal location of the centre of mass of the system stays the same. so P.M + p.m stays constant where P is the position of the Centre of Mass of the Wedge and p is the position of the Centre of Mass of the Block. __________________ ~\o/~ Last edited by Woody; Oct 26th 2017 at 03:10 AM.
Oct 25th 2017, 10:25 AM   #3
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 The base of the wedge is at an angle of A degrees to the horizontal.
What does this mean?

Do you have a diagram?

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