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 Oct 23rd 2018, 06:10 AM #11 Senior Member     Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: England Posts: 963 Word Pictures So you are holding your two magnets in a mechanism. This mechanism allows the two magnets to be moved, in a prescribed manner, relative to each other. Or alternatively you are holding electromagnets rigid in a frame and electronically varying the magnetic fields of the two magnets. In either case, unless you are interacting with an external magnetic field, you will get no motion. If you are only considering the magnetic fields of your two magnets, you will always find that the forces between the two magnets will be exactly equal to and opposite to the forces in the mechanical frame, so the overall force (and thus the overall motion) will be zero. __________________ ~\o/~
 Oct 23rd 2018, 05:59 PM #12 Junior Member   Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 25 So you are holding your two magnets in a mechanism. (no the mechanism is holding the magnets, but yea that's what you meant) This mechanism allows the two magnets to be moved, in a prescribed manner, relative to each other. (the 'mechanism' and the magnetics all move, together in uninson, (at least for now) the whole thing moves relative to space.* In space.* Or anywhere the magnets can operate.) Or alternatively you are holding electromagnets rigid in a frame and electronically varying the magnetic fields of the two magnets. (yes you got the frame right.* Only one magnet needs to vary.) In either case, unless you are interacting with an external magnetic field, you will get no motion. (the point of this is to not rely on anything external other than the space available for the "mechanism" or motion to occur.) If you are only considering the magnetic fields of your two magnets, (only consider the mass of the magnetics and then the strength produced by each one which can be irregardless off the mass by means of one or both being an electromagnet.) you will always find that the forces between the two magnets will be exactly equal to and opposite to the forces in the mechanical frame, (forget the frame for half a second.* yes the forces between the magnets,** although each magnet is emitting an unequal force, compared to one another, the force between the two will displace the magnets a distance apart which will have to cause motion.* If one is less mass generating a bigger field then maybe if bolted together the small mass with the bigger force might push away the bigger mass which I at first thought would carry away the smaller mass). (now that I think about it the problem involving the action/reaction is definitely with the frame.* Thanks for helping me confirm it) so the overall force (and thus the overall motion) will be zero. (there is another idea now) (a rocket with a thrust only works be releasing an action causing the reaction of the rocket to move...* What if there was a long distance behind the rocket like an open princles can so the thrust would be captured after its pressure wasnt so intense.* Being carried away with the rocket but lightweight.* To use to recycle it or something) This is my fault I've been busy with other work and haven't been able but to spend a few minutes responding every few days. This whole idea is a new 1 of mine. I never thought it would work so never tried until I heard of someone creating motion in space just witg magnetics. I wouldn't of tried otherwise. Thought of Newtons third law was why. I do have a idea that we all know is possible tho. Sent from my LG-M210 using Tapatalk
 Oct 23rd 2018, 06:04 PM #13 Junior Member   Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 25 Yea the second magnet sound not really be a magnet just metal affected by the field Sent from my LG-M210 using Tapatalk
 Oct 23rd 2018, 06:08 PM #14 Junior Member   Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 25 The guy I heard about doing it was tesla so I thought it was at least worth checking out. It was just hearsay a video on YouTube Sent from my LG-M210 using Tapatalk
 Oct 23rd 2018, 06:22 PM #15 Junior Member   Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 25 It's not that I doubted Newton. Everytime I heard of his laws it always stayed off explain as "what Newton meant was..." I thought what did Newton actually say as he phrased it. Well lol I downloaded his Principia and it was Translated into English. I thought it would be faster for me to understand what people said that they thought he meant then learn Latin or whatever. There was something worng with my translation I think is undeniable. Not my point idk. Sent from my LG-M210 using Tapatalk

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